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Low flying helicopter at night with no lights on 9 years 9 months ago #15221

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Hi everyone, sorry for the strange new post but I have nowhere else to turn for information.

First off, i'm in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia. Last night at 10:00 pm we had a very large helicopter fly low over our house (enough to cause the trees to move from the wind) with no navigation or strobe lights on. I heard this helicopter coming a good 1 1/2 minutes before it actually flew over, it was that loud.

It came out of the East headed West and then turned around and flew back the way it came, not quite over my house this time. It's also worth noting it was absolutely pitch dark out as the moon had not yet risen.

I've since called the local airport and was told there is a 1000ft altitude limit on helicopters over semi-populated areas and that regardless it would require lights to be on. They also told me the nearest Nova Scotia RCMP helicopter was out of province for some reason, in Moncton.

I called CFB Greenwood but the guy at the switchboard had no idea who to direct me to, so that's a dead end but i've been advised that there are extremely strict flight rules for the CH-149 Cormorant in populated areas.

Any ideas? Who I could call? Who it might be? I'm stumped, and consider this to be a pretty troubling event.

Thanks, JB.
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Re:Low flying helicopter at night with no lights on 9 years 9 months ago #15229

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These are the rules for CIVIL aviation.

Use of Position and Anti-collision Lights

605.17 (1) Subject to subsection (2), no person shall operate an aircraft in the air or on the ground at night, or on water between sunset and sunrise, unless the aircraft position lights and anti-collision lights are turned on.

(2) Anti-collision lights may be turned off where the pilot-in-command determines that, because of operating conditions, doing so would be in the interests of aviation safety.

I'm not familiar with the rules for military/police aircraft at night. One would assume they'd be very similar, but seeing as their operations differ greatly from general aviation, the rules might be different. If you didn't get the Ident you're out of luck bud. Seems odd though b/c most military operations don't go that low in residential areas. Not sure on the rules of what the military can do,
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Re:Low flying helicopter at night with no lights on 9 years 9 months ago #15230

It came in under cover of darkness, low altitude so as not to be picked up by radar and was back out only a few minutes later. Sounds to me like it was a navy pickup or drop off. NATO training excercise, probably. Or maybe I've been watching too much JAG!
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Re:Low flying helicopter at night with no lights on 9 years 9 months ago #15234

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Under cover of darkness? And low to avoid radar or flight path? On the coast or near the border? Sounds like a classic case of drug running to me. Our local RCMP are lights on and in contact with ATC and I doubt the military would do any training ex that low near a built up area. There was an item in the news a while back on small planes and helicopters running drugs across the border in BC. Same senario, low, dark, etc. Mostly low time pilots ie non licenced with just enough training to scurry and make their drop, with a few wreckages and haphazard displays of airmanship along the way!
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Re:Low flying helicopter at night with no lights on 9 years 9 months ago #15237

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Lots of noise, trees bending, came out of the East? Sounds like a Sea King. Probably a night crew trainer exercise - they do those on moonless nights. Aren't they still flying out of Shearwater?

The lights were on, they just get covered with the oil and soot stains.
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