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Flying the Montreal Sightseeing Circuit? 9 years 3 weeks ago #15415

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I'm a US pilot that will be flying to Les Cedres (CSS3) airport in a few weeks. While there, I'd like to fly the Montreal downtown sightseeing circuit (as published on the VTA).

I've never flown in the Montreal area before.

What I'm thinking is as follows:

Depart Cedres heading ENE, and contact Montreal Terminal. Ask them to fly between Dorval and Mirabel (along Laval shore). Once on the east side of Montreal, I'd ask for the sightseeing circuit.

I'd appreciate any advice from folks who have done this before. In particular:

1) Does the route sound reasonable (esp. since I'd rather avoid flying around to the south shore over St Hubert)?

2) What is the correct terminology to use, so the controllers will understand what I want?

3) Any special procedures to follow?

4) Anything else?

Thanks,
Scott.
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Re:Flying the Montreal Sightseeing Circuit? 9 years 3 weeks ago #15416

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hi,
cederes is my home base.
before you leave cederes make sure that you make a call before leaving on your excursion and get your self a transponder code, there is a phone with the numbers already programed on the phone to get who ever you need...being filing a flight plan, weather briefing or just to get a code. there is also a confuser there to go online to do your own weather briefing...lol. when you are on the phone getting your transponder code let them know what it is that you want to do,where you want to fly and the direction of your flight and so on. reason being, i went to do the ville marie circuit (which is the dark thick lines around the downtown core of montreal on the vta) last friday and the guy on the phone said the zone was shut down, that terminal didn't want any other traffic than regular traffic.

your route of flight sounds reasonable to me but like i said above when calling for your code make sure you let him or her know where you want to fly just in case there is some sort of restriction that day. im gonna be trying to do the ville marie circuit again this friday with some guests that are visiting from out west but until i make that call i have no idea if i will be able to get into the zone.

oh one important thing up here in canada if your flight is more than 25nm (radius) away from your departure airport you need to file a flight plan.

to do the ville marie circuit i have never followed the path that is on the vta, just after take off and out of the circuit for cederes i call terminal around 1300' climbing for 2000' and get my clearance to enter the zone i make a heading to the eastern point of the island just south of cederes, you will see the beauharnois dam, from there, take a heading towards the mercier bridge and thats where the arrow points to on the vta, it is the first bridge you come up on and terminal will tell you if they want you to fly it another way but they are usually ok with that route,and eventually they will pass you to montreal tower and follow their instruction but if you have made it that far then the rest is a breeze. following that route takes about an hour to do at 110 to 120 knots. on the eastern part of the circuit you make a left turn just after the olympic stadium and go around the other side of the moutain. now as for coming in from the eastern side of montreal i couldn't tell ya i have never done the route that you are mentioning but it sounds like it can be done, but when you are at cederes ask one of the instructors there for more info...you might be able to get a hold of Luis...one of the instructors that is always there...and tell him The Curve (thats me)sent ya...they gave me that name for a reason...lol...tell ya about some other time.

if you need anything else im quite sure most of the people at laurentide aviation will be more than willing to help you out with any questions you may have.

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Re:Flying the Montreal Sightseeing Circuit? 9 years 3 weeks ago #15417

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Hey, thanks a lot. This is exactly what I was looking for. I like your route better...more direct.

(I did live in Montreal for several years so am familiar with the ground landmarks...but was before I learned to fly).

Question, not clear on your exact route to get to Mercier bridge.

Do you head south over Salaberry de Valleyfield, and then follow the south shore line until you reach the bridge? i.e. over Beauharnois, Maple Grove and Kahnawake? Looking at the VTA, would seem like that would be best to stay away from final approach for Dorval.

Thanks,
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Re:Flying the Montreal Sightseeing Circuit? 9 years 3 weeks ago #15418

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to answer your question of the route..yes the eastern point of salaberry vallyfeild island at the beauharnois dam and then ( and this a quick guesstimate of heading) take a heading of 060 and that should point you to the mercier bridge,you will fly over chatuguay. you could fly a more direct line to the bridge but then you would have to fly much higher cus you will be over water and depending on what you are flying your gliding distance may not take you to land but i dont think that terminal would let you to fly a straight route in and depending on the winds the day you fly you would be in the way of approaching flights to cyul.

does this help... i can explain more if you need

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Re:Flying the Montreal Sightseeing Circuit? 9 years 3 weeks ago #15419

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hey... i just sent you a PM...check your PM's
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Re:Flying the Montreal Sightseeing Circuit? 9 years 3 weeks ago #15420

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I do it often, like fabforce1 said, first when you get to ceders ask for the CFS, its the Canadian version of the Airport/Facility Directory where under Montreal you will find all the appropriate information.

Before departure call up Montreal ACC at 1-877-YUL-CODE, they will give you a squawk for your flight.

After take off and clear of the circuit while remaining under 2500' before Ile Perrot and 1100' after until you contact Montreal Terminal on 134.15 and he clears you to higher. You can mention that you would like vectors, if they are not too busy he should grant your request, beware of the perpendicular runways at Trudeau when you are flying to the circuit.

The lowest available altitude is 1500' for the Ville Marie, beware when flying the circuit to remain clear of St-Hubert airspace and also of the 24L/06R Arrivals/Departures. For the circuit you will be communicating with Montreal Tower on 119.9.

The return is fairly simple, you can request to pass over the island, at towers discretion, he will assign you an altitude and possibly heading, be alert when doing this maneuver since you are flying directly over the airport.

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Re:Flying the Montreal Sightseeing Circuit? 9 years 2 weeks ago #15439

I like to go direct to the Mercier bridge, then hug the south shore of Montreal to the Lafontaine tunnel, loop around, stay on the north side of Mt. Royal, and leave the way I came in (Mercier bridge).

If you're looking for a longer flight, go north from the Lafontaine tunnel to Bois-des-Fillion, then follow the north shore to Oka, then back to Cedres.

All good fun.
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Re:Flying the Montreal Sightseeing Circuit? 9 years 1 week ago #15499

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Hey folks, thanks for all the info and suggestions.

Today was a successful Ville Marie tour, from Les Cedres, over the Mercier bridge, around the tour and back the way we came. Called YUL-CODE for my squawk, and it all worked well.

Weather was perfect, smooth and clear.

Appreciate the help.

Scott.
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