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Air Canada jet blows tires in emergency landing 8 years 10 months ago #16854

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This thread discusses the Content article: Air Canada jet blows tires in emergency landing

\"The pilots were able to land the plane safely, but the added weight of a full load of fuel caused the tires to burst during the landing.\"

I thought those big birds had systems called \"fuel jettison\" in case they had to land just after takeoff. I know the 747's do.
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Re:Air Canada jet blows tires in emergency landing 8 years 10 months ago #16855

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Yeah, but who would want to dump all of that fuel in Lake Ontario, unless it was absolutely necessary? The pilots must have known that they could manage the landing, even though they were so heavy.

As dramatic as bursting tires sound, we've seen many times that losing a few on a heavy does not usually mean a disastrous ending. I lost one on landing once, and I only had three to start with :woohoo: (albeit it was more of a fast leak, rather than a burst).
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Re:Air Canada jet blows tires in emergency landing 8 years 10 months ago #16856

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Both the B777-200 and B777-300 have fuel jettison systems that are available when necessary. Pilot training includes overweight landing for situations where it can be conducted safely.

In an overweight landing, the brakes must dissipate a great deal of energy to stop the aircraft. This energy is converted to heat. The brakes are designed for this energy, but gas in the tires is heated to bursting point, normally after the aircraft is stopped. Emergency equipment is called out to monitor the condition of the landing gear for every overweight landing.

Under certain conditions, the weight of the aircraft MUST be reduced. Examples would be contaminated runways (snow, ice), runway length, or possibly technical issues with the aircraft. There are charts and an onboard computer (Air Canada invested in the Electronic Flight Bag, or EFB to assist pilots with the calculations) to assist the flight crew with making the decision to accept an overweight landing. The priority is always the safety of passengers and crew.

Specific procedures and checklists have been developed for just this type of landing and are practiced by the pilots in their simulators. Though not a common event, neither is it all that unusual for an aircraft that returns to the departure airport, especially one going overseas.
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Re:Air Canada jet blows tires in emergency landing 8 years 10 months ago #16857

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We plan for the same stuff on the E3 - we call the emergency return scenario, where an immediate landing after take-off is needed (uncontrollable fire, some type of flight control malfunction which had indications of getting worse, etc). As Flyt mentioned, in the event of such an emergency return, we know our brake energy is such that the tires will deflate after we come to a stop.

It is interesting to see how long it takes for the heat energy to transfer out from the brakes to the tires and the gear assembly....we're talking about 10 to 15 minutes depending on ambient conditions for the E3 and its rather old brake system. I believe the Airbuses and newer boeings take less time with the composite brake systems they use.

As for dumping fuel, there are times when it is not advisable to dump....wheel well fire, uncontrollable engine fire. Even with the E3, about the only time I would dump would be with a double engine failure after take-off at max gross, and below min maneouvering speed. At that point I wouldn't care much about environmental effects and just dump away!

Anywho - not a huge big deal - it is something all pilots should consider looking into - you'd be surprised how hot brakes can get after a heavy landing or landing with heavy braking...

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